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What I Need Are 36-hour Days
MCTE 628, Instructional Systems Design
Graduate Student Forums, Winter 1999
Date: Mar 15 1999 9:57AM
Author: Ann Willer
eMail: willerda@scis.nova.edu
"Training in Cyberspace" ASTD seminar I and another Nova student both attended a one-day seminar in San Francisco that was put on by the local ASTD chapter and I want to share a little of it with everyone. It was kicked off with a satellite broadcast by Elliot Masie and ended with an in-person discussion by Brandon Hall. One of the themes that was stressed repeatedly by different speakers throughout the day was that the technology was nothing more than the delivery method and that the instructional design was the key to producing effective learning, that we shouldn't get caught up with how "neat" or "cool" the technology is, and that we should perform our needs analysis to determine what needs to be done, rather than just jumping on the technology (in this case, web-based training) bandwagon. A lot of the audience discussion and questions also revolved around the idea of how do we make the ISD process shorter, less timely, etc., because of the need to produce more, faster, cheaper, .....
Date: Mar 15 1999 5:18PM
Author: George Fornshell
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Thanks for this timely posting. Very appropriate.
George
Date: Mar 15 1999 5:41PM
Author: Leanne Boyd
eMail: boydl@scis.nova.edu
Hi Ann --
This sounds like it was a tremendous opportunity, to be able to attend this seminar. Do you happen to know if the committee/team will be posting a review of the seminar, online. Or, perhaps it already has a web address that could be accessed? Many times, the web sites for this type of seminar will give brief intros to the speakers -- and the site can become a very valuable reference tool!
For instance, this one coming up in (yes!) Sydney, Australia, is called Doing IT right: People and Technology. It's hosted by the University of Sydney. I found this from my subscription to a discussion list that I've mentioned in the Forum before, and which I find extremely useful: IFETS (International Forum of Educational Technology & Society)
This particular seminar, sponsored by EDUCAUSE, has a tremendous list of speakers/exhibitors. Most of the reviews have links to the speakers' projects, university programs, software tools, and more. On this page, for instance, try clicking on the option for "Education without boundaries" -- this will keep one busy for several hours!
If you have a web site URL for the seminar you attended, please consider posting it here!
Thanks, Leanne
Date: Mar 16 1999 7:51AM
Author: Ann Willer
eMail: willerda@scis.nova.edu
When I checked, they had not posted any review of it, but that could change. The event was put on by the Golden Gate chapter of ASTD and their URL is www.goldengate.org. I originally found out about it from the WBTOLL (Web Based Training On Line Learning) listserv which is a very interesting listserv to subscribe to. I have been lurking there since early last semester and have learned quite a bit from the ongoing discussions.
Date: Mar 19 1999 3:04AM
Author: Leanne Boyd
eMail: boydl@scis.nova.edu
Hi Ann! Thanks for the info. I just clicked over there, and they now have this online! It's under "Conference recap, review, and credits". The overview links to the key speakers' web sites, as well as gives a list of all the sponsors. Although there aren't detailed reviews, the list of resources is tremendous (in the companies/individuals that attended) and can be searched out by company name, in search engines. Also, thanks for the Golden Gate ASTD link -- they look to be extremely active, with lots of resource links on the web site.
A very wonderful web site was recommended to me by a friend who is a professor in the online environments of both WaldenU and The Union Institute (two other excellent distance learning universities, with graduate programs pertinent to our Nova CTE interests). This site not only addresses our issues of instructional design and learning environments, but also those of web-based education, art/creative processes and digital art, and gender issues. It is a beautiful site, as well as informative. Go to: Future Looms, or to their education site.
By the way -- what is everyone up to, for the upcoming Spring term? All of my classes, it's become kind of a tradition, for everyone to post here in the forums, to let everyone know where you are headed.
I will be taking MCTE 645. Then, in July, my plans are to enter the DCTE program with the Summer 99 Institute!! Scary, but fun!
Thanks to all, and best wishes! ... Leanne
Date: Mar 19 1999 8:10AM
Author: Ann Willer
eMail: willerda@scis.nova.edu
What a neat site ... thanks for the tip. Spring semester for me is 630-Database systems and 650-Computer Networks. I thought long and hard about switching over to the DCTE program (I would be eligible for summer also), but am leaning more towards finishing the Masters, then doing the Doctorate as a separate thing. I know it costs more and takes longer, but I am also really enjoying the Masters and am not sure I want to give that experience up.
Date: Mar 19 1999 8:19PM
Author: David Barnes II
eMail: barnesda@scis.nova.edu
I'm planning to take 625, 645, & 670, then enroll in the Doctoral program in July under the combined degree option (assuming I get accepted).
Date: Mar 20 1999 8:19AM
Author: George Fornshell
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Have you considered asking your professor's for a letter of recommendation. Three recommendation letters are required. Many students have done this in the past.
George
Date: Mar 20 1999 6:32PM
Author: Sydney Tibbetts
eMail: tibbetss@scis.nova.edu
Leanne,
I'll be taking 645 with you and also 630 next term. I'll start the early doctorate program (cluster) in September. I'm glad to see you're continuing with the doctorate program, as well and that you'll be a step ahead of me. You'll know the ropes before I get there and can advise me. How goes it on the job front?
Date: Mar 20 1999 6:34PM
Author: Sydney Tibbetts
eMail: tibbetss@scis.nova.edu
David -- three classes? Whew! Maybe the professors could recommend a therapist, too. :)
Date: Mar 21 1999 8:51AM
Author: George Fornshell
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Be sure to talk with the program office about your plan. This means contacting the doctoral program office and the Master's program office.
George
Date: Mar 21 1999 10:08AM
Author: Leanne Boyd
eMail: boydl@scis.nova.edu
...make that a good massage therapist! As for a counselor, David! Head straight for one that worked with Vietnam shell-shock victims! I had one friend that did the 3-course suicide trip, back last Fall (one of which was 691/Project) -- I think she's still in recovery stages. Good luck!
Sydney - yeh! Another 3 years. I figured they are almost used to me over in Financial Aid. Why give up a good thing? I'd have to start all over if I started somewhere else, and I'd be bored if I just quit with the Master's! My counselor in F.A. was probably looking forward to my Exit, this summer, and is probably still shaking her head for my news ruining her weekend. :-)
Having made the decision, I feel great! I'm glad you've decided to do this, too! I don't know if Cluster and Institute do much co-participation, but we are about to find out!
Job hunt. Thot I had it snagged. Great interview for internship in instructional design, on Friday. The final analysis? High-tech company in high-tech communications and services fields -- instructional systems? V E R Y low-tech. This interview that started as an almost instant-hire on the telephone, ended in that statement of we think you are over-qualified and won't you be bored? NOT a good sign.
I've spent some of this weekend, ramping up for -- once and for all -- getting my studio up and running again. I've been fairly dormant for these almost-4 years back in BA and Masters studies. Back to the cold call and to heck with the gee-you're-over-qualified'rs.
Or, the web developer positions, with the gee-you're-UNDER-qualified, as you don't have CGI/Perl/ASP/C++/JAVA/VB/SGML/CSS/JavaScript/Cobol [puffpuff] WebHTML/SQL/DBMS/ ... and all the rest of the amplified alphabet tekkie acronyms. You haven't had 8 years in developing Internet e-commerce systems. (Yes, they really said that, in a co.jobs posting, just last week -- some wish list, for the 5-year old Internet!)
Wait! But I've got Shock and Afterburner and Flash and Fireworks -- if I can get my Macromedia HANDS on you, I'll show you.... HOT!!
Where do they find these people, with all these alphabet-skills? If you want to see a SCARY job list, go ck. out co.jobs in the newsgroups. Some 6000 new listings every week -- looks like Campbell's veggie soup, spla!tte@rEd on the wall.
What I need is 36-hour days.
Date: Mar 21 1999 10:16AM
Author: Leanne Boyd
eMail: boydl@scis.nova.edu
Addendum: But when I sorted the newsgroup list by "Thread," those 6000 jobs show up as being re-listed several times in a week, or at least every two weeks. So ... they AREN'T finding the alphabet tekkies. Sad, that companies don't seem to want to commit to "growing" their employees.
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